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2011 GC - A/C Climate Control Unit Upgrade question

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Hello! I own a 2011 Dodge Grand Caravan Mainstreet, which is pretty much a project car/daily driver to me at this point. In preparation for this upcoming summer, I wanted to figure out a way to upgrade from my basic HVAC Control Unit to the automatic model. The first issue that I ran into was the different wiring connectors between the two units (MTC and ATC).

So, because of that discovery, it gave my brain some time to think of a few questions before I even attempt to do this;

1. Am I literally the first one to be attempting this, or did someone already do this and there's documentation on how to do it?
2. How can I trace down the correct wiring harness(es), if possible?
3. Are there any extra sensors and/or modules I might need to do this upgrade successfully?
3. If I do this, will the dealership need to reprogram the van to accept the new control unit?
4. Is it actually worth it?

In my case, I'd personally like the upgrade for long trips, as it'd be nice for the van to keep the climate consistent, rather than me constantly making adjustments when it gets too warm or too cold.
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Your part number appears to be the actual wires for the sun senor, not the sensor itself. The sensor part number is 55111275AA, make sure the last digit before the letters is a 5.
Oh yeah, I should've clarified, I meant to specify if that part number would work for the connector/pins. Sorry about that! I'm personally going to pick up a compatible sun sensor at a u-pull-it to both save myself some money, as well as to reduce e-waste.

I would take the connector/pins as well for the sun sensor. But, from what I've read, messing with the sun sensor connector is a real pain? I'm trying to plan out what to do here, and if I could get away without spending $34+ dollars for that, I definitely would.

Also, thank you for providing the sensor part number!

I believe I used the same product as this, just a larger box and it had heat shrink tubes (on their own without solder in them) https://www.amazon.ca/Solder-Connec...connectors+heat+shrink&qid=1684990451&sr=8-36
And those look good, I'll have to get myself some supplies, including the soldering iron.
Oh yeah, I should've clarified, I meant to specify if that part number would work for the connector/pins. Sorry about that! I'm personally going to pick up a compatible sun sensor at a u-pull-it to both save myself some money, as well as to reduce e-waste.

I would take the connector/pins as well for the sun sensor. But, from what I've read, messing with the sun sensor connector is a real pain? I'm trying to plan out what to do here, and if I could get away without spending $34+ dollars for that, I definitely would.

Also, thank you for providing the sensor part number!



And those look good, I'll have to get myself some supplies, including the soldering iron.
Ah okay, yeah it works for the pins. It is a bit of a pain to cut and solder the new sun sensor connector, because the wires are usually very short so you'd probably have about 1 inch max from the connector to the lowest point you can cut the wire at. Still plenty to work with. I cut the 4 pin connector, and then cut the 2 pin one from the vehicle I'm working on and solder the 2 existing pins, to the new 4 pin connector, and solder 2 extra wires to the inner pins and run them to the HVAC, where I solder those to the pins on the ATC connector (which weren't present in the manual version). I am aware you can de-pin the sun sensor connector for the 2 wires your van already has, but with the little room there is against the windshield, it's just faster for me to cut and solder.

Edit: the part number isn't very important, what is important is the sun sensor itself which should have 4 pins inside. For 2011 they decided to budget cut, and the vans equipped with auto climate controls and no auto headlights only have a 3 pin sun sensor. I realize you're adding only auto climate controls but should you decide to do it down the road, you will already have the correct sensor.
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I believe I used the same product as this, just a larger box and it had heat shrink tubes (on their own without solder in them) https://www.amazon.ca/Solder-Connec...connectors+heat+shrink&qid=1684990451&sr=8-36
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I hate those for anything but 18 gauge or smaller. The solder almost never melts enough to make a good connection on larger wire.

If think you may do a good bit of soldering in your lifetime, you could grab one of these:
I have a much older, less well featured model that works great, but I'm still pretty tempted to buy this one. Currently this is on sale for the same price as the newer version of mine, so it makes sense to get the extra features. The good thing about these is you can set the heat so that you don't bake wires with too much. I usually set mine to about 350 F, but sometimes if it's windy out I'll crank it higher.

But if you think you'll do this project and never touch it again, just grab a cheap iron from a local store and some 60/40 rosin core solder. Some flux will help the solder flow (great for newbies) but it makes a bit of a drippy mess, use it if you have issues.
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