Experience with Elgin Rocker/Lifters for Pentastar 3.6?

I finally got the rockers (took some time to get them up here) and they look great from what I can tell. The rockers are using the newer design with the centre rotating pin.

Have a few pics I took of the rockers below. So far they look promising. I'll know for sure when they are installed in the car.

Doesn't look like they give much room for the bearing to contact the cam before it touches the cage. Mopar AH revision has more than double that room.

I finally got around to installing these. So far, I have only done the left bank, but here are some pictures as comparisons to the OE rockers that came out of the car. My van is a 2012, so it has the older revision parts. Still have to complete the right bank.

Top is Elgin and bottom is the OE Rocker. Spacing looks pretty similar to me IMO.




Here are the failed rockers:



Unfortunately, they seized up and ate into the cams as well...



I went to a scrapyard and pulled the cams from another car. Paid about $33 per cam.

Got it all back together. Had to get the last torx bolt from the dealer as mine stripped when removing.


Onto the right bank!

ShowMe1 said:

When the rockers fail and collapse, they will eat your lobes whether froze up or not. $30 pet cam is a sweet deal if they're in good shape. I was surprised you started with the front bank since it seems to me that the rear bank is easier.

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Yes, they will drop down, but as long as the rockers don't seize up, you might be able to reuse the cam as long as the middle of the lobe isn't scored. In my case, the rockers seized and ate into the middle of the lobe as well.

The yard here has pretty decent parts pricing, but you have to go pull the parts yourself. They also list the mileage on the windshield and whether the engine is good, so you can narrow down which car to take parts from.

The other great thing about this engine is that it is extremely common, so you are almost guaranteed to find a car that hasn't had it's engine pulled whether it be a caravan, t&c, journey, charger, etc.

Sienile said:

I've never seen one of these rockers freeze up. They all slack up and drop like the ones he pictured.

Think he narrowed down his issue to the front so he went there first. Rear bank is a bit easier since you don't have to fight with the chain tensioner lock.

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I started with the left bank mostly because I thought it would be easier to access. This is the first time I've worked on a transverse mounted V6 and thought the right would present a bigger issue in terms of access. So far it has, I had to buy a new oil filter socket set to get low enough profile 36MM to fit between the AC lines and the OCV. I also had to buy a right angle bit driver since my torx bits were too large to fit in the same space for the VVT actuators.

The tensioner lock on the left was pretty annoying to deal with though when getting the tool in place to release the ratcheting mechanism. After I got that though, it was pretty straightforward.