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I notice a lot of new Caravan owners asking about installing the 2nd and 3rd row Entertainment system in their 2011 Carvans, and there have not been many answers as of yet if this is even possible.

Like a lot of you, I have noticed that the only after-sale screen option shown in the Mopar catalog is the 10" over the head unit with the built in DVD player. I know that most of us have the empty overhead console, so this is not an option.

There are a couple of kits out there that, depending on the website catalog you look at, are compatible with the 2011 Caravan. Those are 82211707, and 82211871. I have emailed a couple of parts departments to find out if these indeed can be used with the 2011 Caravans, but so far I have not received a definitive answer.

I got incredibly lucky this week, and located a complete DVD system out of a wrecked 2011 caravan, including the DVD player, the complete overhead console, and a 430 non-nav head unit. It was in Las Vegas, and my father-in-law was kind enough to take a look at it, and buy it for me. I know I am taking a chance getting these sight unseen, but even if just the screens work, I think I will come out ahead on the deal. My goal is to install these components in my 2011 Caravan Crew.

My guide for this effort is a pair of installation documents I found on the net: K6860331, and K6861508. The K6860331 document has been around a while, and covers the basic of installing the DVD players in the 2008 to 2010 Caravans. The K6861508 is much newer, and covers such things as removing the super console top that is included in the 2011 Caravans. Curiously, this document is only available on the Mopar International website.

I should have my hands on these components as of this weekend (I live in California, and my in-laws split time between Las Vegas, and California), and my first order of business will be to test the 430 head unit. If it works, I will be selling it to help with the cost of the install.

My second order of business is to start locating the wiring harnesses that I will need to install the equipment. From the research I have done, I think I have the parts numbers for the harness I need:

68019572AA This should be the main harness from the radio to front DVD screen. It appears to be a generic harness that Dodge uses in a lot of vehicles.

68056933AA This should the monitor cross connect harness that goes from the front screen to the rear screen. At this point I don’t know if I need it as I hope to be able to salvage it from the junk console. I have also seen this harness referred to as 68004933AA, but google can’t bring up that number.

68004934AA This is the auxiliary input harness that runs down the C pillar to where the 120v outlet is. Right now I am considering not purchasing this harness as a cost savings.

68004935aa This is the secondary DVD power harness that goes from the dedicated DVD player to the front screen. However, I have not been able to verify that this is the correct part number.

If anyone has any insight as to which harness I should be trying to locate, please post it here. I know someone did a complete install off a 2008 T&C a few years ago, and used the complete factory harness, but I am trying to stay away from replacing my complete A pillar harness, and am trying just to add the necessary harness to get the DVD unit to work, as per the 82211871 kit and others.

I hope to be able to get down to one of my local Dodge dealers next week, and find out for certain if these are good parts numbers.

Hopefully this is the first posting of many regarding this subject, and I will try to post as many pictures as I can when and if I start doing the install.

Thanks,
C. Alan
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I know for a fact that you DO NOT need to have the video inputs... When I did the install in my 08, I did not install them and everything worked flawlessly!

When you hook up the main harness from the radio to the overhead DVD system, it will allow it to power on and SHOW you available inputs (a good way to test to make sure each screen is working and that your wiring is correct)... A trip to the dealer to flash the computer to enable the overhead DVD will allow for full functionality...

I did EXACTLY what you are trying to do on my 08, so if I can answer any questions please let me know!
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More monitor speculation

One think I have noticed regarding the video monitors. The front and rear monitors are very different. The front monitor seems to act at the a audio/video hub, and it not only directs the video to itself, but it also controls the video on the rear screen. The front monitor is the only one with a CANBUS connection, and are labeled 2nd and 3rd row. The monitors are also different part numbers:



So, as a bit of speculation here: if you just want to use a lockpick with your existing radio, it may be possible to use the 3rd row screen as strictly a monitor. Part of this is due to the fact that it is not relying on the CANBUS for any of it's signals. below is the pinout for the main 22 pin connection on the 3rd row monitor.
Code: 
AV 	CIRCUIT 	FUNCTION
A1
	X114 20 GY/LB 
	FUSED B(+)
A2
	
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A3
	
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-
A4
	
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A5
	X965 20 GY/BR 
	I/R AUDIO LEFT
A6
	X964 20 GY/WT 
	I/R AUDIO RIGHT
A7
	X549 18  
	VDO-VIDEO SHIELD 3
A7
	X549 20  
	VDO-VIDEO SHIELD 3
A8
	X567 20 DG/VT 
	VDO-AUDIO LEFT 5
A9
	X566 20 DB/OR 
	VDO-AUDIO RIGHT 5
A9
	X566 20 DG/OR 
	VDO-AUDIO RIGHT 5
A10
	X564 20 GY/LB 
	VDO-AUDIO RETURN 5
A11
	X563 20 GY/YL 
	VDO-VIDEO SIGNAL 5
A12
	
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A13
	
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-
A14
	
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A15
	X573 20 GY/WT 
	I/R DIGITAL AUDIO SIGNAL 1
A16
	X574 20 GY/BL 
	I/R DIGITAL AUDIO SIGNAL 2
A16
	X574 20 GY/DG 
	I/R DIGITAL AUDIO SIGNAL 2
A17
	X575 20 GY/RD 
	I/R DIGITAL AUDIO REFERENCE
A17
	X575 20 GY/WT 
	I/R DIGITAL AUDIO REFERENCE
A18
	X547 20 GY/WT 
	VDO-VIDEO SIGNAL 3
A19
	X548 20 GY/YL 
	VDO-VIDEO COMMON 3
A20
	X568 20 GY/DB 
	VDO-AUDIO RETURN 5
A21
	X565 18  
	VDO-VIDEO SHIELD 5
A21
	X565 20  
	VDO-VIDEO SHIELD 5
A22
	X530 20 GY/DB 
	GROUND
I think if you got power and signal to the monitor, it would work without the 2nd monitor. The makes for all kinds of possibilities. You could get just a third row monitor, and using a lockpick, wire up a fully functional 2nd row video system that look OEM.

Please note, this is based on my observations. If you try this, you are doing it at your own risk.
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I know for a fact that you DO NOT need to have the video inputs... When I did the install in my 08, I did not install them and everything worked flawlessly!

When you hook up the main harness from the radio to the overhead DVD system, it will allow it to power on and SHOW you available inputs (a good way to test to make sure each screen is working and that your wiring is correct)... A trip to the dealer to flash the computer to enable the overhead DVD will allow for full functionality...

I did EXACTLY what you are trying to do on my 08, so if I can answer any questions please let me know!
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I'm a bit out on a limb here because according to Chrysler, what I am doing is not supposed to work. There are after-sales DVD kits for the '08, and there are not any for the '11s. From everything I have seen so far, I don't see a reason for this. I suppose I will know more when I tear into the roof liner of my car.
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BTW, in case you are wondering. The monitors I have are 9 inch:
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One Step forward, one step...sideways.

So I got a call today from my local dealer, and my wiring harness had come in! So after work I was able to go down and get them.

The main harness I purchased appears to be the correct harness (part #68019572AA). However, the other harness is not correct. Part number 68004934AA is indeed the Auxiliary harness, and that is the one I ordered. If you look at the first post in this thread, you will see that I accidentally posted two identical part numbers for the DVD harness, and the Aux harness.

MODS, I REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO EDIT THE FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD, IT HAS AN INCORRECT PART NUMBER IN IT.

The good new is that this evening, using the main harness, and the cross connection harness I salvaged from the console, I was able to power up both screens!



With regards to the missing harness: I think I may be able to make the proper harness out of the Auxiliary harness I recieved. Lucky for me, when I got the DVD player, whom ever had removed it had not bothered to disconnect the wiring from it, they just cut it about 8 inches from the end. The DVD harness only has 6 conductors in it up to the main overhead screen, and the aux harness has 10 conductor in it, so I am ok on that front. Unfortunately, I cut on that particular plug the night I was trying to figure out how the pins were held in the plugs. So it looks like a dog chewed on it.


The good news is it still works. I was able to plug it into the DVD player and run a continuity test, and it passed.


The only real problem is that the aux harness is about 3 feet shorter than the main harness. I did salvage about 2 feet worth of wire from the screen to the 43 way console input plug, so that could be used to get me two more feet. I really only want to put one spice into this harness, so If it will work a foot short, I may do that. You can see the difference in the harness lengths in the picture below.


Unfortunately, my postings here may slow down a bit. I work for the Federal Government, and our fiscal year ends at the end of this month, so I am pretty busy at work, and will have to work the next two weekends. So it may be a couple of weeks before I get the system installed.
--C. Alan
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Nice!!!!

I agree, this is the only forum that I am on that locks the posts after you post them so that you can't correct them. Completely unnecessary IMO. Apparently you can PM a Mod or Admin to do so.

I totally understand the year-end thing, we just got finished up with our year-end and audit.

Once you are all done, if you are able to post up a list of the parts that you used, that would be awesome! :)
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Might be a strong possibility... How many connectors are on the 2nd Row Screen & how many connectors are on the 3rd Row Screen??

Do you think you could just use 2 2nd Row Screens and not use the Can Bus Connector when using the Screen in the 3rd Row? Make any sense? :nut:

C. Alan said:
One think I have noticed regarding the video monitors. The front and rear monitors are very different. The front monitor seems to act at the a audio/video hub, and it not only directs the video to itself, but it also controls the video on the rear screen. The front monitor is the only one with a CANBUS connection, and are labeled 2nd and 3rd row. The monitors are also different part numbers:



So, as a bit of speculation here: if you just want to use a lockpick with your existing radio, it may be possible to use the 3rd row screen as strictly a monitor. Part of this is due to the fact that it is not relying on the CANBUS for any of it's signals. below is the pinout for the main 22 pin connection on the 3rd row monitor.
Code: 
AV 	CIRCUIT 	FUNCTION
A1
	X114 20 GY/LB 
	FUSED B(+)
A2
	
-
	
-
A3
	
-
	
-
A4
	
-
	
-
A5
	X965 20 GY/BR 
	I/R AUDIO LEFT
A6
	X964 20 GY/WT 
	I/R AUDIO RIGHT
A7
	X549 18  
	VDO-VIDEO SHIELD 3
A7
	X549 20  
	VDO-VIDEO SHIELD 3
A8
	X567 20 DG/VT 
	VDO-AUDIO LEFT 5
A9
	X566 20 DB/OR 
	VDO-AUDIO RIGHT 5
A9
	X566 20 DG/OR 
	VDO-AUDIO RIGHT 5
A10
	X564 20 GY/LB 
	VDO-AUDIO RETURN 5
A11
	X563 20 GY/YL 
	VDO-VIDEO SIGNAL 5
A12
	
-
	
-
A13
	
-
	
-
A14
	
-
	
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A15
	X573 20 GY/WT 
	I/R DIGITAL AUDIO SIGNAL 1
A16
	X574 20 GY/BL 
	I/R DIGITAL AUDIO SIGNAL 2
A16
	X574 20 GY/DG 
	I/R DIGITAL AUDIO SIGNAL 2
A17
	X575 20 GY/RD 
	I/R DIGITAL AUDIO REFERENCE
A17
	X575 20 GY/WT 
	I/R DIGITAL AUDIO REFERENCE
A18
	X547 20 GY/WT 
	VDO-VIDEO SIGNAL 3
A19
	X548 20 GY/YL 
	VDO-VIDEO COMMON 3
A20
	X568 20 GY/DB 
	VDO-AUDIO RETURN 5
A21
	X565 18  
	VDO-VIDEO SHIELD 5
A21
	X565 20  
	VDO-VIDEO SHIELD 5
A22
	X530 20 GY/DB 
	GROUND
I think if you got power and signal to the monitor, it would work without the 2nd monitor. The makes for all kinds of possibilities. You could get just a third row monitor, and using a lockpick, wire up a fully functional 2nd row video system that look OEM.

Please note, this is based on my observations. If you try this, you are doing it at your own risk.
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It is the 3rd row monitors that lack a CANBUS connection. There are four connectors the third row monitor, the one I posted above that comes from the 2nd row monitor, and the optional satellite videos/audio. So it has a total of 2 video signals in. I don't think you can use a pair of 2nd row monitors, as they are not 'dumb' monitors.
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Well, because I am not going to be able to install this system for several weeks, I decided to put the auxiliary harness up for sale on Ebay (Item 150905154204), along with the extra RBZ radio I got in the deal. I am also going to put them in the classifieds on this site.
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Without the connection to the canbus, can you change to aux1 or aux2?

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chileanjk said:
Without the connection to the canbus, can you change to aux1 or aux2?

thanks
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I hooked it up today to test the remotes and headphones I got off ebay. They worked fine. So I went ahead and disconnected the canbus pins from the video screens. They won't even boot unless the canbus is present. After that I reconnected the canbus, and disconnected the screens from the radio. The screens will boot up, but I don't have auxiliary input module, so I wasn't able to test if the input worked while disconnected from the radio.

I did note that all cases, the aux input was grayed out, so I think it won't let you select these inputs unless there is something hooked into them.
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C. Alan said:
I hooked it up today to test the remotes and headphones I got off ebay. They worked fine. So I went ahead and disconnected the canbus pins from the video screens. They won't even boot unless the canbus is present. After that I reconnected the canbus, and disconnected the screens from the radio. The screens will boot up, but I don't have auxiliary input module, so I wasn't able to test if the input worked while disconnected from the radio.

I did note that all cases, the aux input was grayed out, so I think it won't let you select these inputs unless there is something hooked into them.
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Thats how the MyGIGs work for the front aux input and glovebox usb plug as well.
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The last wiring harness has been rounded up!

Ok, today I think I finally solved the mystery of the missing 2nd DVD player wiring harness. The part number on the first post of this thread is correct (68004935AA). This number is not in the Chrysler catalog. I talked to a dealer in North Carolina today who had it listed on their website. He didn't have it in stock, but was able to point me to a dealer who had it in stock in Ohio. I called the Ohio dealer, and he was able to pull the part off the shelf, and describe it to me. It has the correct plugs on it (a 16 pin, 4 pin and a 10 pin connector) and he knew it went between the DVD player and the front screen. SCORE! So the last harness is now on the way to me from Ohio. I still have the aux harness for sale.

So things are looking up! Now I just need to get the last harness, and get some time to do the install.
--C. Alan
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That's awesome!
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I received the last wiring harness today, and it appears to be the correct harness! I did a full power test of all my components this evening, and they all appear to work. I was a little disappointed that the second DVD player could not be selected from the overhead screen menus, but it would power up, it was communicating with the canbus. I could mute the headphones with it, and disable the remote. The VES option now also appears on the RBZ radio, but when you select it, it goes to AM radio. I think these issues may be caused by the fact that the VES system has not been activated by the dealership yet. I was really hoping to not have to do that, and just run the system from the remote, but it looks like that won't work.

I hope to do the install this weekend.
--C. Alan
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That's awesome!

Before you install it all, can you make sure that you post a list of the parts that you used?

Thanks!
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Parts list

Ok, there have been a couple of requests for parts lists, so to guide everyone on what exactly I am doing, I suggest you download the installation guide : K6861508.pdf. You should be able to find this with the help of Google.

Based on the parts call out in the installation guide, here is what I am going to install:

Call out 1:
P1SR89HDAAA This is the 2nd row LCD monitor.
P1SR92HDAAA This is the 3rd row LCD monitor.
Note: These two monitors are different. If you are doing a single monitor installation, you just need the 2nd row monitor. I have seen a lot of different part numbers for these monitors.

Call out 2:
68056933AA This is the wiring harness that goes between the 2nd and 3rd row monitor. However, I have not been able to confirm this number. If you are salvaging monitors out a wrecked mini-van, get the entire overhead console if you can, as you will be able to salvage this wiring harness out of it like I did.

Call out 3:
68019572AA This is the main wiring harness from the radio to the second row monitor. If you just want to hook up your DVD enabled head unit (like a RBZ ) you just need this cable.

Call out 4:
68004934AA This is the two input auxiliary harness, you will also need the input modules to be able to hook a A/V device to the system. I didn’t install the auxiliary inputs, so I won’t be using this harness.

Call out 5:
I don’t have the part number for the single input auxiliary harness.

Call out 6:
05064063AE This is the 2nd DVD player that is installed in the console.

Call out 15:
68004935AA This wiring harness powers the 2nd DVD player that installs in the console, and goes to the second row monitor. The harness also plugs into the main harness to deliver power and CANBUS to the DVD player.
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harness from 2nd row to 3rd row

I just bought a 2012 T&C with the DVD and overhead console just like the one you have (3 empty trays after the 2nd row DVD)...then I bought a DVD from ebay for the 3rd row, thinking that the only thing I'd was a harness (which I thought I'd find a dealership) from 2nd row dvd to 3rd row dvd . after taking down the console, I saw that the existing dvd screen says '3rd row dvd' and so does the one I bought from ebay. I installed the new one on the 3rd row and went to the dealer to get the harness and they told me that the part# is 68072718AC and not 68056933AA. I was wondering if you ever ran into the part# that my dealership is trying to order for me. my whole system looks just like the one you have even thought it's a 2012
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Thank you C. Alan!

This is the pdf right? http://www.dealers-mopar.com/international-accessory-catalog/assets/ISheets/K6861508.pdf
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Thank you C. Alan!

This is the pdf right? http://www.dealers-mopar.com/international-accessory-catalog/assets/ISheets/K6861508.pdf
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Yes, that is the correct PDF. There is an earlier one out there form 2008, that has more or less the same wiring diagram.
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