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Well at just under 368,000 kms, its time I retire the old van. While the engine and trans are good, everything else around the van is falling apart.

Leaking gas tank, leaking radiator, leaking crank seal, failed headliner, bad Front control module, rotted body and much more...

My mom bought it back in 2008 with 78,000 kms and I've been using it since 2014 as my daily. Unfortunately it will cost too much to keep on the road now.

I have just made the purchase on a 2018 Grand Caravan GT and will be sending the ol van to car heaven. Great vans, did more than I could ask and took all the abuse I could throw at it.

Definitely gonna miss this van. But, nothing lasts forever, especially in the Salt belt.
 

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Well at just under 368,000 kms, its time I retire the old van. While the engine and trans are good, everything else around the van is falling apart.

Leaking gas tank, leaking radiator, leaking crank seal, failed headliner, bad Front control module, rotted body and much more...

My mom bought it back in 2008 with 78,000 kms and I've been using it since 2014 as my daily. Unfortunately it will cost too much to keep on the road now.

I have just made the purchase on a 2018 Grand Caravan GT and will be sending the ol van to car heaven. Great vans, did more than I could ask and took all the abuse I could throw at it.

Definitely gonna miss this van. But, nothing lasts forever, especially in the Salt belt.
I'm sorry I live in Alabama and my 04 is almost perfect except for peeling sun baked clear coat

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Good to hear from you, sorry for your loss but happy for your gain. What are you doing these days?
 

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Good to hear from you, sorry for your loss but happy for your gain. What are you doing these days?
Hey. I'm a full time mechanic and part time detailer. Been really busy these days going back and forth doing a lot, hence why you don't see me too often here anymore.
 
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Congrats on the new van. The GTs are nice. Your old '04 served you well.
 

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Well at just under 368,000 kms, its time I retire the old van. While the engine and trans are good, everything else around the van is falling apart.
Could get a good bit for those to help towards paying for the new van. Not a fortune, but a couple thousand.

You'll love the 5th gens.
 

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My mom bought it back in 2008... Unfortunately it will cost too much to keep on the road now.

I have just made the purchase on a 2018 Grand Caravan GT and will be sending the ol van to car heaven.

Definitely gonna miss this van. But, nothing lasts forever, especially in the Salt belt.
Good move.

When a vehicle is not worth to fix it, get rid of it and buy a newer one.

No, you are not going to miss it, believe me.

Some will tell you to strip it before you get rid of it. Unless you have a lot of empty space and want to keep useless parts forever (you will have to throw them away eventually), you are better off to just get rid of it.

Congrats on your new purchase.
 

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Good advice from a guy that has a yard full of old vehicles, including a Bricklin or two. :)
 
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Good advice from a guy that has a yard full of old vehicles, including a Bricklin or two. :)
Who better qualified to know, eh? 🤣 But, yeah, I get what he means. I've got tons of Toyota parts including an engine that will likely sit in my garage - taking up space - for years. I even have parts for vehicles I sold long ago. Time for some housekeeping!
 
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Good advice from a guy that has a yard full of old vehicles, including a Bricklin or two. :)
Some will tell you to strip it before you get rid of it. Unless you have a lot of empty space and want to keep useless parts forever (you will have to throw them away eventually), you are better off to just get rid of it.

I do have a lot of empty space, I rarely sell my cars, so I just park them indefinitely. I never save used parts for later use.

Seen some people here who always have a lot of old, used spare parts in their vehicle. More likely they will never need them.
 

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Could get a good bit for those to help towards paying for the new van. Not a fortune, but a couple thousand.

You'll love the 5th gens.
You will never get a couple of thousands for those things. You can get them a lot cheaper at junkyards.
 

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When my '81 GMC Sierra Classic was at that point, 350 engine and tranny still worked, a hole in the cab floor that I covered with my foot in case I dropped something, exhaust Y-pipe completely rotted and disconnected from the muffler, washer pump gone, lots of body rust, etc., I knew that a wrecker would give me $250 for it, so I advertised it for $500. 15 minutes later calls and text messages started coming in. I sold it to the guy who responded first for my asking price, but probably should have asked $1200 to sell it for $900-1000. I'm definitely not saying your '04 minivan will have the same appeal, but I wanted to tell my story. 😁
I bought a 5-speed transmission for my '97 Saturn, but ended up selling the car before installing it; it's still tucked in a corner of my garage. :confused:
 

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I'd try to sell it for $3,000.
Human psychology, people will assume it's nicer if the asking price is higher. People will be more willing to pay a haggled down price than an asking price, because the excitement of getting a deal. Finally, if you wait long enough, some honest SOB will actually pay asking price

I'd list it for double what it is worth, try negotiating in $500 increments. Be honest about the shortcomings. Give lots of pictures, the good and the bad. Detail the inside before selling it.
As an example, if you want $2000, ask for $4000. Everytime they make an offer, only go down $500. Push hard at $3000. "Let's split the difference" at $2,500 if they don't accept $3000. Don't accept anything below $2000. "No thanks". Anything above what you want or think it's worth, is extra cash, it's worth the hassle of negotiating or waiting for another buyer.

Watch out for low-ball scammers. People will use their friends or different phone numbers to flood you with absurd offers, like $500. Then the original scammer will come back and offer more, still way below asking price, and you'll think "this is a good deal, everyone else is offering less, I need to jump on this offer while it's still on the table". Don't do it. If you're patient, somebody will come along offering more. You have nothing but time to get those extra hundreds and thousands of dollars.
 
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I'd try to sell it for $3,000.
Human psychology, people will assume it's nicer if the asking price is higher.

I'd list it for double what it is worth, try negotiating in $500 increments. Be honest about the shortcomings. Give lots of pictures, the good and the bad. Detail the inside before selling it.
As an example, if you want $2000, ask for $4000. Everytime they make an offer, only go down $500. Push hard at $3000. "Let's split the difference" at $2,500 if they don't accept $3000. Don't accept anything below $2000. "No thanks". Anything above what you want or think it's worth, is extra cash, it's worth the hassle of negotiating or waiting for another buyer.

Watch out for low-ball scammers. People will use their friends or different phone numbers to flood you with absurd offers, like $500. Then the original scammer will come back and offer more, still way below asking price, and you'll think "this is a good deal, everyone else is offering less, I need to jump on this offer while it's still on the table". Don't do it. If you're patient, somebody will come along offering more. You have nothing but time to get those extra hundreds and thousands of dollars.
Watch out for Low-ball scammers when you are instructing him to be an scammer himself?

He already told us, that vehicle is not worth fixing it.

Yes, if you can sell it as a whole by all means do it, but don't try to take advantage if others.
 

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Watch out for Low-ball scammers when you are instructing him to be an scammer himself?

He already told us, that vehicle is not worth fixing it.

Yes, if you can sell it as a whole by all means do it, but don't try to take advantage if others.
Be honest about the shortcomings. Give lots of pictures, the good and the bad. Detail the inside before selling it.
I did tell him to be honest and forthcoming about the van. Accurate pictures and descriptions of the vehicle's problems and strengths. The vehicle is worth the money to somebody, and if all the cards are on the table, they are making the decision to buy it without any scam taking place.


There is some mad lad out there with a hand full of JB weld who would try to tackle these problems. Personally, I'd be much more likely to buy a vehicle with an extensive description and gallery of photos, knowing exactly what issues it has, than a vehicle with a single photo and a dubious "runs good" as the only description.
 
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Thanks to all that responded. Plan is to scrap it, not worth my time trying to sell. Only things I'll be removing before scrapping it are the tires/rims (lots of thread- rims in great shape), alternator (year old), and a few other miscellaneous parts that I know are worth selling and are relatively new.

I pick up the new van next Saturday- cant wait!
 

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Consider donating it. I donated a 94 Camry 8 years ago to the Purple Heart Foundation. Got a $400 tax credit. Very easy. Came to my house and loaded it on a flat bed even though it was running. Many orgs accept car donations. Here's another one:
 

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Good to hear from you. Sorry to hear you have to retire the old one, surely you'll miss it at times, but I think with a very late model loaded van, you'll be very happy! Congrats! Post some pics of the new one when you can.
 

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368,000 km = 230,000 miles......my '03 Caravan has 268,000 MILES and still going strong......a bit rusty, but damn well trusty.....🏆🏆🏆
 
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