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Any deals in Canada for a set of summers? I have a full set of new winters on wheels so a set of performance summers would be nice. Any particualr brands you love or hate? I wont run Generals or Dunplops or Firestone.
 

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Best overall tires I've had on anything were Douglas brand. Always ran them on my Altima. Haven't looked for any for the van.
 
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I used to use Continental True Contact years ago with my old Gen 3 caravoyager. They were not expensive, gave good grip and were fairly quiet. I should have changed my summers on my 1999 vger ... but covid hit and I have done crazy few miles since so can't grade the current ones. I saw on CTC site that they are moderately priced now.
 

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I believe Douglas is an economy brand of Good Year. I read those Good Year Assurance ComforTred Touring tires were pretty good, just based on reviews for our heavier vans. Makes sense that the Douglas tires would also do well.
 
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Douglas is the trademark for a line of tires owned by the Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company, which manufactures the line and sells them exclusively through Walmart. Goodyear registered the name in 1992 through its subsidiary Kelly Springfield Tire Company.

So they say. :)
 

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Oddly enough, despite being an "Economy brand" of Goodyear, I'll put anything Douglas on long before you could pay me to put anything Goodyear on a vehicle. I have never had a Goodyear tire that wasn't garbage.

I won't touch anything Firestone either, they tend to last forever, but they always ride rough, they're always noisy, and they always tend to be terrible in winter.

Same deal with Kelly tires. Some of the noisiest, worst riding tires I have ever experienced.

I however swear by the General Altimax RTs for an all around all season tire. They wear wonderfully, ride wonderful, are quiet on the highway, and are amazing in the winter. So much so that since I got summer wheels I just continue using the Altimax RTs as my winter wheels.
I prefer them to the more expensive Michelins and Continentals because they don't get noisy and lose traction as they wear, which is something every set of Michelins or Continentals we've had have done. They're always amazing when they're new, but once they get under 7/32 tread they become noticeably noisy and they lose a noticeable amount of grip for winter/wet use. The Generals however stay quiet and keep their grip right down to the wear bars.

My summer tires are Hankook Ventus S1 Noble in a 235/50r19 and they have been wonderful for the last 3 seasons. They handle well, they're quiet, and they have been good in the wet. I intend to have another set installed on the summer wheels this spring when I pull them out of storage.
 

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Same. The Goodyears I ran lasted less than half the time I expected them too. I guess the more expensive tire has a softer compound. The Douglases always lasted beyond their mileage rating.
 

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Oddly enough, despite being an "Economy brand" of Goodyear, I'll put anything Douglas on long before you could pay me to put anything Goodyear on a vehicle. I have never had a Goodyear tire that wasn't garbage.

I won't touch anything Firestone either, they tend to last forever, but they always ride rough, they're always noisy, and they always tend to be terrible in winter.

Same deal with Kelly tires. Some of the noisiest, worst riding tires I have ever experienced.

I however swear by the General Altimax RTs for an all around all season tire. They wear wonderfully, ride wonderful, are quiet on the highway, and are amazing in the winter. So much so that since I got summer wheels I just continue using the Altimax RTs as my winter wheels.
I prefer them to the more expensive Michelins and Continentals because they don't get noisy and lose traction as they wear, which is something every set of Michelins or Continentals we've had have done. They're always amazing when they're new, but once they get under 7/32 tread they become noticeably noisy and they lose a noticeable amount of grip for winter/wet use. The Generals however stay quiet and keep their grip right down to the wear bars.

My summer tires are Hankook Ventus S1 Noble in a 235/50r19 and they have been wonderful for the last 3 seasons. They handle well, they're quiet, and they have been good in the wet. I intend to have another set installed on the summer wheels this spring when I pull them out of storage.
Have 30,000 miles on same General tires you mentioned, they appear now that they will easily surpass 50,000 miles. I rotate them every 10K
 
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I'm on my second set of Nokian tires now and don't see a need to go with a different brand unless something really special jumps out at me at that moment, especially now that they've closed their Russian factory and have the one here in the US up and functioning.
 

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The OP is very particular; " I wont run Generals or Dunlops or Firestone".
Dunlop = Goodyear
General = Continental
Bridgestone = Firestone

The General AltiMAX RT43 is quite popular here (on the Forum). There's an RT45 available now.
What's the difference between a General AltiMAX RT43 and RT45? Maher and the Continental team said the General AltiMax RT45 has a 10% improvement in wear over the RT43, thanks to an update to a flatter contour which makes the tire more suitable for front-wheel-drive...
 

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Have 30,000 miles on same General tires you mentioned, they appear now that they will easily surpass 50,000 miles. I rotate them every 10K
I've gotten 40-50k out of each set I've had. I usually replace tires around the 5-6/32 tread mark though as I have to deal with winter use, so I could easily have made 60-70k out of them in a non-winter climate.
 

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Cooper CS5 Grand Touring.

Have a bit over 60K on my current set - and will likely get another 20K before I hit the wear bars.

UTQG 780AA. Made in USA. Case closed.
 

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Best overall tires I've had on anything were Douglas brand
In a price-value equation I wholeheartedly agree. I currently have Douglas all-seasons on my old Daytona and Sundance. I wouldn't put them on my T&C, though, as I've never gotten more than 38K miles on a set...and that's with almost fanatical maintenance practices.

The P225/65R17 Douglas is 99 bucks in these parts, and it's a 420AB tire. For a few bucks more I can get something substantially longer-wearing.

Love the Douglas line, but only for my older cars with 14" tires.
 

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I've only had Douglases in 15" on my Altima (the 947k miles one) and Cavalier. It's been a long time so I'm not certain of this, but I believe they were rated for 40k miles and I would get about 50-60k on them. Alignment is very important, as with all tires. My first set on the Altima wore out pretty close to the rating and near the end of their life I replaced control arm bushings and got an alignment. Next set still looked new after 10k miles.

I'd sure try them on the van if I was still near a Wal-Mart that sells tires, but the nearest is 30 minutes away and they don't stock my size because they have a tire shop right down the road that takes most of their business. Kinda nuts that the one they chose to sell tires is so near other tires shops and not one of the other high traffic stores in the area.
 
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Like gravitylover suggested, I'm tilting toward the Nokian One for my next set on the T&C. It's a 720AA tire on sale for $108.04 at W-M. If they're now made in the USA that's bonus points in my book.

No help if there's not a Wal-Mart tire center nearby...

 

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Like gravitylover suggested, I'm tilting toward the Nokian One for my next set on the T&C. It's a 720AA tire on sale for $108.04 at W-M. If they're now made in the USA that's bonus points in my book.

No help if there's not a Wal-Mart tire center nearby...

Most of what's available here in the States is what was made at the Russian factory, the US one is up a d running now but not much has made it into the market yet. Take a look at the Encompass too, it's a newer design and updated compound, the One was an makeup model for big box stores.
 

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I'm a Michelin fan. I saw how well they were built when I worked at a tire shop in college, and I told myself, when I can afford them, I will buy them. If you put 20,000 miles a year on your car, Michelins are going to be the best all-around tire and can be cheaper if you put 80,000 miles on them. Their only weakness is if you are not rolling out lots of miles, I would not recommend them since they dry rot faster than other brands. There are other tires that will beat a Michelin in any single category, but the higher price buys you quality that scores near the top in every metric.
 
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