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Lots of experience with the Mich Defenders on a variety of vehicles. I drive in a spirited manner and in all conditions, snow and extremely heavy rain and the Michelins cut better at freeway speed than anything else I've used, even when heavily worn. My van is an '05 and the front tires wear quite a bit faster on the outer edges, even with the pressures at 44psi. The rears actually last about 4 sets of fronts. I think this outer tire wear issue is an '05 Dodge thing because they wear more evenly on every other vehicle I've installed them on.
My 05 had a Sumitomo that immediately started wearing on the outside edge. It was on the back of the van. I went back to Kal tire and they blamed the wheel alignment. The van never wore tires period before this. I wzited for another year and the outside edge got worse so i had a wheel alignment dont and took the paperwork to kal and they still refused to warranty the tire. I threatened to sue them in small claims court and we got the money back the same day.
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I will mention the Sumitomo was emergency replacement for a tire that got a huge (brand new) wheel weight through the sidewall driving past a Canadian tire. My wife drove that tire glat another 3km to her work and ruined the tire. She returned the tire the Les Schwabb location across the border. They honored the tire no questions asked and refunded her 100%. So WTF is with Kal tire? Even with documentation and my word the van never wore tires erratically they still refused to acknowledge it could be a defective tire.
 

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Also will note that the rear alignment was perfect and required no adjustment. Yet talking to the advisor at Kal he said going over a big bump could xause the rear alignment to go out. He said sometimes rear alignments go out all the time. Ya right. Our van had around 220k kms and never had a rear alignment. Had the toe adjustment on the front because i replaced the inner and outter tie rods.
 

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I had them on 3 different cars as the OE tires. All three rode well enough and the tires seemed to wear reasonably well but the sidewalls were mush and the handling suffered because of it. I really don't like it when I can feel a tire roll over in hard cornering and I can see scrub marks an inch up from the tread. Maybe I'm weird but ride quality, treadwear and mpg are not as important as confidence in emergency maneuvering and the "giggle factor" of a car being laid into a corner and feeling like it's on rails. In the case of a top heavy minivan or suv a properly firm sidewall is even more important.
I am familiar with scrubbing on the sidewall. You drive your car hard. This is a matter of under inflation for the tire for your style of driving. You can get a higher performance category of tire and it will require less of an increase in tire pressure. I wish I could take my van around the corner on two wheels. All the tires I have ever owned would roll over the sidewall when I push the car to the limit during autocross. Add 10 psi and it saves the tires and also acts like an increased spring rate in the suspension.
I had Pilot Exaltos (daily comfort-based performance?) on my sports car and loved them. Once that size was no longer available, I put Premieres on. The steering response suffered drastically and there was no noticeable improvement in ride quality or noise. It was still a good tire; it was just not meant to be handled like that.
 

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I'll probably get pummeled for saying this, but I think higher air pressure is your best friend with most tires these days. I run at least 44psi cold in everything now, drive very (very) spirited and tires grip surprisingly well to all normal road surfaces. Only complaint is proportionately greater wear on the outer edges of each front tire with my '05 van.
 
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