I've wanted to do it too.

I know you need the dealer to at least program the van for them.

 

Program the van ..really?.. I didn't even think of that looking at the kit looks like all plug and play. do you know what in the programing would have to change?

This is the Kit I saw

 

I installed the factory kit in August on my 2013 GCV SXT. Google K6861189.pdf This is the install instructions that come in the kit. You have to get the front end up at least 6" from the ground to be able to have enough room to remove the dummy panels and run the harness. The hardest thing was getting access to the TPIM to install the wires. I haven't'nt worked anything newer then my 1998 Chrysler Cirrus before the van so it was a steep learning curve on the electronics on modern vans. I tried 2 times to remove the top of the TPIM for harness access. I gave up each time believing I must being doing something wrong as I couldn't get enough clearance to access the correct harness plug. I was afraid of damaging the TPIM and having to have it towed to the dealer. New TPIM are about $700.00. I made a 3rd attempt a few days later and just pulled a little harder and I was able to gain access to the right plug assembly. You have to remove the vans battery, the battery tray to be able to get to the 3 bolts that hold the bottom of the TPIM. Then you have to figure out the locking mechanism to remove the plug. When you get the plug assembly removed from the TPIM, you have to figure out how to disassemble to plug it self to install the to hot wires from the lamps. One wire for each lamp has to go through a water proofing membrane on the plug and be seated. Also the illustration on page 3 in the instructions is wrong. Paragraph 11 b, & c lists the proper cavities 11 & 16 but the are illustrated in the picture wrong. It's necessary to read the cavity numbers on the end of the plug to determine cavity 11 & 16. The end of the plug is marked 8 & 16. Count out the empty holes to determine 11 & 16. It does not matter which wire from the fog light harness goes to which cavity. Reassemble. Then a trip to the dealer is necessary to activate the lamps. My dealer charged $ 50.00. I don't think I would do it again. Just to many chances to screw up the TPIM. But it turned out well for me.

 

Ironically, the instructions for the Mopar fog lights for my car had incorrect info as well.

 

I installed an aftermarket projector beam outfit...Relay,25a breaker,20a fuse, switch, done works like a charm...I'll try and post some pics and so forth

 

My 2013 T&C Touring-L had the lights when I bought it.

To be honest, they are really rather useless. They aren't high enough up to work as driving lights and they aren't designed to be actual fog lights. All they do is light up the area under the front bumper for a distance of about ten feet or so in front of the van. They use the same bulb as the headlamps, but there is no lens to diffuse the light properly for use as fog lamps and they don't shine out far enough to be useful anyway.

If you really want fog lamps that work, I'd go with something after-market and don't go cheap. For best results as fog lamps, they should be yellow or amber anyway.

My van has the auto high-beam lights, and the 'fog lamps' go off when the high beams go on. When driving with cars coming at you, your high beams go off, but then the lower 'fog lamps' go on, and I've had other drivers turn on their bright lights at me, thinking, I assume, that I'm doing the same to them. I really haven't used them since I got the van.

 

good to know thanks for the info!

 

I have this kit and will embark on the install as soon as I get some free time. I've been told I can get the programming done for $50 as well. The instructions appear to be straight forward. I'll keep an eye out for the wiring instructions... I've glossed over them but will pay attention to the plug instructions thanks to your advice. I also plan to run amber lights so that there's some benefit to visibility in inclement weather. Anything that can help the stock setup would be welcome as it leaves a lot to be desired.

 

keep us posted i still would like them and like you i would run ambers..... and would look sexy too...lol

 

2011+ Town & Country fog light:

2008+ Grand Caravan/2008-2010 Town & Country fog light:

 

Interesting, but the fact remains that the 2011+ Chrysler vans both seem to use the same lamp for the 'fog lamp' position. Probably done to cut down on cost by cutting down on the number of parts to carry in stock.

I've never had a vehicle with the projector type lights. But the fact also remains that 'projector' type lamps used today are the exact opposite of what you would want for a fog lamp. There is no cut-off of the top of the beam to prevent glare back to the driver and the lens that focus' the light straight ahead, according to your Wikipedia article, would destroy the effectiveness in fog by not illuminating more than a narrow beam far out in front. The color is also wrong as amber and yellow lights are more effective in fog as I explained before.

Xenon is also a halogen gas, as a glance at the periodic table would show. Both of the Chrysler minivans use halogen bulbs in the fog lamps, as well as the high and low beams, projector or not. Apparently one of the halogens other than xenon.

 

Yes, they seem to use the same bulb, but the light is output in different methods - reflector housing vs. projector housing.

That's actually one of the advantages to projectors, is you get a nice cut off with them. Xenon might be a halogen gas, and that does make sense, but I was referring to the "common" names for lights on vehicles, as HIDs/Xenon headlights are known to outperform the regular halogen headlights.

All I know, is that the xenon projector headlights on my Caliber are excellent, and the halogen fog lights in a reflector housing are also very good. Along your point though, I have changed my fog lights to an amber colour.

 

I would love to see anyone's aftermarket attempts. I would rather do a switch then rewire the harness. I would end up putting HIDs in anyways and the less canbus the better. My first HID kit was an analog setup and had to buy Warning Cancellers for them to work and went through 2 ballasts on the left side until I got a digital ballast set and the problems went away. I am debating on piecing together the lenses and then the covers and just run a switch. I would rather a brighter fogs then having the factory look anyways. Looking at having the fogs be 3000k and my low beams are already 12000k.

 

Any updates?

 

Interesting read. I'd love to install a pair of fog lights on our 12', every vehicle we've had other than this has had them. Sounds like the trick is using 11'+ T&C housings though.

 

No body yet?

I have been waiting and waiting!

I am loving the TC fog lights and head lights but not willing to replace my bumper hahaha.

 

I have this kit in the garage waiting for install.

 

I just ordered my fog light kit for my 2014 caravan. Kit 82213206AB, cost me 125 shipped and dealer said they will put it in for $140. I will update with results and final costs

 

I have one as well for our Ram C/V. Just need some spare time to install them.

 

I finally got around to installing the fog light kit on my 2014. It wasn't too bad. I still have to go the dealer to have them turned on. I did take pictures of the process.

 

Feel free to post the pictures

 

i had to hold off too many other things on go... heading monday for rear ceiling dvd install and new headunit with nav...

 

Let me make sure they work first. have appt. on 7/11 to get them turned on.

 

man i wouldnt go to the 711 take it to a dealer...lol

 

mmmmk

 

I installed the lamps, front wiring harness and the switch. I left the tipm wiring alone since there is a question on the correct pins. I finally installed the Mopar back up camera and wiring too. A friend at the dealer is going to finish the fogs along with the Mopar remote start on wednesday.

 

Had the dealership enable the fog lights today and I'm happy to say they worked.

 

pictures

 

Hi, I'll be doing this upgrade soon, I was wondering, does it include a new light selector thing with Fog lights as an added option? If not, how do you use your existing one to select Fogs?

 

More pictures

 

One thing to note here is in the last picture the black piece on the end must come out so you can break the peg off where the wire will go through. The pegs are in the empty spots to keep water out.

 

Even more pictures

 

In the first picture the front of the connector will pop out a bit so the wire can be pushed in from the back. I just used a small flat blade screw driver. Also, never mind the illustration on the instructions, the connector is labeled where pins 1,8,9,16 are located. For 2014 MY the wires go in positions 7 and 9. For 2013 MY I did see they used different numbers.

 

Great, thanks!

 

The factory kit includes a new light switch with the Fog lamp control and is very easy and quick to install.

 

Probably the easiest part of the whole install to switch the switch