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They will change the speedo reading by the difference in diameter, probably the speedo will read 2% lower than actual speed so at an indicated 100 you will be going 102. Different odo reading will cause mileage to calculate 2% lower so you should correct that. For actual mileage impacts, tire weight and tread design will have an effect so don't buy super heavy mudder or AT tires.
Thanks. That's really helpful. Time to check out what's available in 235.
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
In 235, there's the
SUMITOMO HTR ENHANCE LX2
CONTINENTAL TRUECONTACT TOUR 54 which is new
PIRELLI P4 PERSIST AS PLUS
GOODYEAR ASSURANCE ALL-SEASON (also in 225)
YOKOHAMA AVID ASCEND LX (also in 225)
YOKOHAMA AVID TOURING-S
UNIROYAL TIGER PAW TOURING A/S
Sorry for the all caps. I cut and pasted.
Thanks!
 
Read the reviews and ratings and make your choice. If you have a local Discount Tire or America's Tire, they will have much of the same stock and I believe will install if you order from Tire Rack. Common Ownership.

With your driving 5k per year, I might not buy the Michelins which could weathercheck if you park outside for 10 years. Look for a sale or cheaper price but good ratings. BUT if you buy a tire that's discontinued, and trash one in a couple years, you have a problem.
 
With those you will show 60 at 61.1 mph, 90 at 91.6.

 
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Read the reviews and ratings and make your choice. If you have a local Discount Tire or America's Tire, they will have much of the same stock and I believe will install if you order from Tire Rack. Common Ownership.

With your driving 5k per year, I might not buy the Michelins which could weathercheck if you park outside for 10 years. Look for a sale or cheaper price but good ratings. BUT if you buy a tire that's discontinued, and trash one in a couple years, you have a problem.
Good advice. Thanks for all your help.
 
I looked at tire rack dot com yesterday for those Nokian tires and could not find them. Are they discontinued?
Nope. I used a local shop, most will be surprisingly close to the online cost with Nokians. Many also discount or include mount and balance.

Size is 225 65 16. What are the advantages/disadvantages of truck/SUV tires?
Higher load rating and often also a longer wearing compound through the tread area as they're expected to carry a heavier load and run hotter. I don't know about the 16" size, never looked but maybe it's the right time to look for a set of 17" alloy wheels. Jeep 17s are usually cheap used and will easily clear your front brakes if they haven't been upgraded to the later dual piston HD calipers.
 
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Nope. I used a local shop, most will be surprisingly close to the online cost with Nokians. Many also discount or include mount and balance.


Higher load rating and often also a longer wearing compound through the tread area as they're expected to carry a heavier load and run hotter. I don't know about the 16" size, never looked but maybe it's the right time to look for a set of 17" alloy wheels. Jeep 17s are usually cheap used and will easily clear your front brakes if they haven't been upgraded to the later dual piston HD calipers.
Thanks. Looks like there are a lot more choices in 225 65 17.
 
Thanks. Looks like there are a lot more choices in 225 65 17.
Your speedo will be off by 3% going from 16 to 17" wheels with the same 225/65 tire size. Should fit just fine as it does on my '16 Grand Caravan. No problem with this strategy except the cost of the new wheels and moving the tire pressure sensors if you have those. The Chevy Equinox, GMC Terrain, and a lot of newer minivans use the 225/65x17 size so there is a larger market for it.
 
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Your speedo will be off by 3% going from 16 to 17" wheels with the same 225/65 tire size. Should fit just fine as it does on my '16 Grand Caravan. No problem with this strategy except the cost of the new wheels and moving the tire pressure sensors if you have those. The Chevy Equinox, GMC Terrain, and a lot of newer minivans use the 225/65x17 size so there is a larger market for it.
Thanks. That's really helpful.
 
Actually as the air volume of a tire increases you'd run slightly lower pressure. It's a tough call though as there's no consistency from one manufacturer to another as far as casing size. This even changes within a brand line as different casing thicknesses will affect the volume.
 
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Actually as the air volume of a tire increases you'd run slightly lower pressure. It's a tough call though as there's no consistency from one manufacturer to another as far as casing size. This even changes within a brand line as different casing thicknesses will affect the volume.
Interesting, thanks.
 
They will change the speedo reading by the difference in diameter, probably the speedo will read 2% lower than actual speed so at an indicated 100 you will be going 102. Different odo reading will cause mileage to calculate 2% lower so you should correct that. For actual mileage impacts, tire weight and tread design will have an effect so don't buy super heavy mudder or AT tires.
How do you all choose? Safety, comfort and mpg are my priorities, in that order. I don't mind paying for the Michelin Defender 2 but is that overkill when the van mostly sits in the driveway with 3 months of 100+ degree heat?

OTOH, I may have to take a cross-country trip in the next year. The van has a wheelchair lift and power chair that together weigh 350 lbs. Currently have Goodyear LS2s that came on the van. Tread is good but they're old and starting to crack.

Other options in size 225 65R 16 in descending price order are Bridgestone Weatherpeak, Firestone Weathergrip, Continental True Contact Tour, General Altimax 365 AW, Vredestein HiTrac All Season, BF Goodrich Advantage Control.

Thanks for your input!
I have been using Mastercraft USA made tires on my 2009 and 2007 vans with very good luck. Reliable, good MPG, quiet. Worth it for the cost which will be lower than other more advertised brands.
 
I am very happy with the switch to LT tires. The passenger tires were overburdened by the weight of these vans, especially loaded. Visually they always looked squatted at recommended pressure and I experienced heavier wear on the shoulders, which is normally attributed to underinflation. Overinflation, if the tires are even rated for it, had the tire monitor system driving me nuts, the ride suffered, and I'm sure would significantly affect emergency braking and handling performance. None of that is good. Get some extra load capacity in a factory size. Michelins have historically been a great bet. Especially considering safety is your top priority. I've regretted every bargain tire I've ever bought.
 
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I am very happy with the switch to LT tires. The passenger tires were overburdened by the weight of these vans, especially loaded. Visually they always looked squatted at recommended pressure and I experienced heavier wear on the shoulders, which is normally attributed to underinflation. Overinflation, if the tires are even rated for it, had the tire monitor system driving me nuts, the ride suffered, and I'm sure would significantly affect emergency braking and handling performance. None of that is good. Get some extra load capacity in a factory size. Michelins have historically been a great bet. Especially considering safety is your top priority. I've regretted every bargain tire I've ever bought.
Thanks. What size do you run?
 
I ran LTs for a while. I'd get about 3 years out of them. Switched back to Ps when I could no longer get LTs at wholesale pricing. Would've been worth it to pay the extra for LTs. These Ps are shot at just under 2 years. Will be to the replace markers by the end of 2 years.
 
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