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Is a Premium, High-Capture Efficiency Oil Filter Right for You?

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#1 ·
Considerations:
Problems with the Pentastar engine including oil contamination?
Efficiency for particles greater than 20 microns in size?
Oil flow vs higher efficiency?
By-pass situations?
Typical OE filters?
Materials/construction?

Using FRAM as a benchmark as they publish more technical data than most.
Efficiency for particles greater than 20 microns per ISO 4548-12

FRAM Extra Guard: 95% efficiency, Oil change interval 10000 miles/16000 km
FRAM Tough Guard: 99% efficiency. Oil change interval 15000 miles/24000 km
FRAM Ultra Guard/Synthetic: 99%+ efficiency. Oil change interval 20000 miles/32000 km

As one can see, the dirt holding capacity of the higher efficiency filters is very high and adequate for the long haul.

From a GM Study: *
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The take away here is obvious, better filtration = longer engine life.

"The typical economy-grade oil filter is going to have a 95 percent capture efficiency at 40 microns, with almost no performance at 10 microns or less." *

So, the FRAM Extra Guard is not the typical economy-grade oil filter.

"The table below displays some of the data that was found during a Web search that lasted only a few minutes. (The brand names have been removed)" .*

SAE J1858 Test for Automotive Oil Filters


Buyer beware of what oil filter you use. Motor oil and motor oil filter are a Team. The air filter is also a Team member.

"One reason the Fram Ultra Guard is so efficient is that it uses a higher quality filtering media. A standard Fram Extra Guard, and many other standard oil filters, use a cellulose/synthetic blend filter media." **

"Basically, filters trade efficiency for flow rates. A perfect filter would eliminate all debris with no reduction in oil flow rate, but this – as yet – is not possible. In order for a filter to really clean the oil, it will present some restriction to flow. This means that at any one time, a certain amount of oil is by-passed around the filter. This happens with any filter, regardless of design." **

"During cold start operation and during high rpm operation, some oil is routinely by-passed around the filter to minimize a serious pressure drop across the filter." **

"The best advice you can give your filter customers is to buy the best oil filter that is listed for their engine — especially if they are not changing their oil for 7,500 miles or more. Many premium filters can go 10,000 miles or more. In any event, extended oil service intervals of 10,000 miles or more require both synthetic motor oil and a premium quality filter. " ***

The following sites have been referenced above: They are interesting reads.

* How to Choose the Right Oil Filter for Your Car

** Ask Away with Jeff Smith: Micron Ratings and What They Mean for Your Oil Filter - OnAllCylinders

*** Oil Filters: Quality Matters | KnowYourParts
 
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#2 ·
Separating fact for marketing bumpf can be challenging. Fram is in the business of selling filters and is biased.

One point that bothers me is engine manufacturers specify oil and filter change intervals, not filter manufacturers.

The GM data on particle size vs distance to overhaul is helpful, but it does not say what GM also says about oil/filter change interval trade off. On one hand, consumers want long intervals for convenience, but on the other hand dirty oil/filter compromises life. Remember, when a filter gets dirty and goes into bypass, it's not filtering anything!
 
#3 ·
One point that bothers me is engine manufacturers specify oil and filter change intervals, not filter manufacturers.
This has all come about because of the synthetic oil hype. Why waste good synthetic oil on a 3000 mile oil change when it can go 20000 miles. Just ask Mobil.

Have to hand it to FRAM for at least providing technical data on their products They have been doing so for decades. It's a selling feature of course, if one has a good product to sell. FRAM is the OE supplier for Honda.

The same information for Mopar, WIX, Purolator, etc. is not so easy to find.

Mopar appears to be rated at 35+ microns with a 98.7 percent efficiency. That's not directly from Mopar. Nothing spectular about that even if the oil does flow through it. FRAM rates theirs, per ISO 4548-12, for particles greater than 20 microns. Particle size makes a difference for engine wear. Think tiny pieces of needle bearings, rockerarms and camshaft lobes flowing through the Pentastar engine's oil system. :(

Reportedly Purolator, Champion and WIX make Mopar filters. The Mopar FE00148, I use to buy, was made by WIX, although one batch was different, likely Champion. Purolator usually has a strring around its filter media per Motorcraft FL1a

ECOGARD® SYNTHETIC+ Oil Filters will remove 99.9% of oil contaminants at 25 microns, so they say.. More on those filters: Their basic oil filter seem fairly common here, likely because of the "Made in China" price. Is it garbage? I wouldn't buy one.
As for dirt holding capacity and obstructing flow, the cadtridge filter has about 2X the filter size of the mickey mouse filters specified for the 4th Generations come 2005. I don't think flow is an issue, if so by kess than 2% pressure is my guess..
 
#4 ·
I would wonder what kind of filters the guy with the 626,000 mile Ram Promaster used.

From years on the Ford Truck Enthusiasts forum, the highest mileage vehicles didn't get there with concern over oil filter brand or type. One guy had 5 E vans with 1.3 MILLION miles on the original engines, 5.4 and 4.6 V8's, and he had the shop on the corner change the oil and filter every 10-20k when the drivers remembered. Using whatever house brand filters the shop guy used.

Fram does make money selling their high end filters for 3-4x the cost of their base filters while using a few cents of additional material and a different color paint :)
 
#5 ·
I would wonder what kind of filters the guy with the 626,000 mile Ram Promaster used.

From years on the Ford Truck Enthusiasts forum, the highest mileage vehicles didn't get there with concern over oil filter brand or type. One guy had 5 E vans with 1.3 MILLION miles on the original engines, 5.4 and 4.6 V8's, and he had the shop on the corner change the oil and filter every 10-20k when the drivers remembered. Using whatever house brand filters the shop guy used.

Fram does make money selling their high end filters for 3-4x the cost of their base filters while using a few cents of additional material and a different color paint :)
Most engine wear occurs in the first few seconds after a cold start. High mileage vehicles don't get many cold starts and fleet managers can get away with cheap filters and long change intervals.

In contrast, I have seen low mileage engines that are done at 30k miles in spite of regular oil changes. The reason is all the trips were short (1 mile or less) like driving the kids to school, going to the grocery store, etc. Lots of stone cold starts, especially in winter.

I bought a used cop car with 125,000 km that was almost always running, including idling for hours on end, and had few, if any, cold starts. The engine ran so smooth you could put a glass of water on the air cleaner while idling, and the water was perfectly still.
 
#8 ·
The guy on the FTE van page was hilarious. He posted photos of a set of plugs that he ran in one of his vans for 325k miles or something. Center electrodes were gone. He said the engine was running a bit rough... He honestly had a number of vans over a million miles doing passenger transport long-distance. 10-20k between oil changes, sounded like filters were randomly what the mechanic on the corner bought. I won't pretend that that kind of mileage, like 626k miles on a Promaster with a dang Pentastar(!) in it, is typical. Almost zero cold starts, and steady-state humming along.

I spent some time looking at BITOG and obsessing over filters some years ago. Now I just have the dealer do the changes. Actually, with the lifetime Mopar warranty I bought, it serves me well to use the dealer, and if the engine ever blows up, it's on them and Chrysler. And it gives me face time so if I ever need to deal with a warranty issue, they know me and know that I care about my van as I do about all my cars.
 
#9 ·
I was at a local auto glass place this morning pricing a windshield for my Jeep. I think the two guys, brothers I believe, install new window assemblies in houses as well, which means a fair amount of driving.

Anyway, their Dodge Grand Caravan was there, a 2013 plus model, I will get the exact year and more details another time. It has caught my interest.

I asked them how it was working. "It's the best" was the answer. How many miles I asked. "381000 km" (236700 miles) was the answer. Any engine problems, work done on the engine? "Nope, none, just keep adding oil, don't even bother changing it.". How about the transmission? "Works better than new, no problems".

I don't think I would buy that vehicle from them, the oil filter is likely siezed in place. :)

More on that vehicle another time.
 
#10 ·
It would be interesting to take a look at the filter from that van and see how much and what kind of shrapnel there is stuck in it.

I would bet these guys did not buy the van new, but their story is pretty impressive but seems to come from a place of naive ignorance. Not sure I'd use these guys for any other work that demands precision.

With the plastic housing, I don't think filters can get too seized.
 
#11 ·
Probably tight enough to break the fragile plastic housing when unscrewing it.

They aren't into fleet management for sure. They do good work, local guys, been in business for many years.

PS: Maybe their filter housing is cracked and that's where the oil is going. Yes, that's fleet management. :)