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New 2020 Grand Caravan RT

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#1 ·
Well, I bought another Grand Caravan. I took my 2008 SXT in for an ABS Module. None were available at parts stores. I had to leave the car there, and I had been thinking of getting another vehicle. They had just one Grand Caravan so I bought it. It has so much stuff on it that it will take me a long time (if ever) to learn how to use it. I will have to get used to changing oil on the 3.6 L.
 
#2 ·
Congratulations.
 
#4 · (Edited)
Some oil change tidbits based on my experience:
6 liters of oil for fluid and filter change.

Drain plug: 13 mm:

Oil filter cap: 25 nm = 18.4 ft.lbs, (says torque on the cap). I used articulated socket wrench, shallow 24 mm, 6 sided impact socket (more readily available size at the store). Space is tight so may need to make room by disconnecting air hose, nothing major. Remove engine cover first by grasping on sides and pulling up with a bit of a tug (4 pegs on cover sit in rubber grommets on the engine).

Filter comes with new upper "O" ring gasket. Lubricate that and the bottom small "O" ring gasket as well.

Last oil change Nov. 20, 2020 @ 119,313 km. 13,010 km/205 engine hours interval, using Valvoline Daily Protection 5W-30 conventional oil, which contains a little synthetic. Averaged 63.4 km per engine hour.
I target for 10,000 km oil change, slipped up a bit. Used a FRAM TG 11665 oil filter from previous change, left it in place, rated for 24,000 km.

Previous oil change June 10, 2020 @106,303 km. 15467 km/247 engine hours interval, using Valvoline Daily Protection 5W-30 conventional oil. Averaged 62.6 km per engine hour. Used a FRAM TG 11665 oil filter.

This long interval was deliberate as the oil was Pennzoil Synthetic oil, so I left the oil in until the oil change monitor told me it was due for a change. It was a test.

My typical driving time is about 50/50 highway vs secondary roads, very little City driving.
 
#6 ·
Some oil change tidbits based on my experience:
6 liters of oil for fluid and filter change.

Drain plug: 13 mm:

Oil filter cap: 25 mm, 18.4 ft.lbs, (says torque on cover). Used articulated socket wrench, shallow socket. Space is tight so may need to make room by disconnecting hose, nothing major.

Filter comes with new upper "O" ring gasket. Lubricate that and the bottom small "O" ring gasket as well.

Last oil change Nov. 20, 2020 @ 119,313 km. 13,010 km/205 engine hours interval, using Valvoline Daily Protection 5W-30 conventional oil, which contains a little synthetic. Averaged 63.4 km per engine hour.
I target for 10,000 km oil change, slipped up a bit. Used a FRAM TG 11665 oil filter from previous change, left it in place, rated for 24,000 km.

Previous oil change June 10, 2020 @106,303 km. 15467 km/247 engine hours interval, using Valvoline Daily Protection 5W-30 conventional oil. Averaged 62.6 km per engine hour. Used a FRAM TG 11665 oil filter.

This long interval was deliberate as the oil was Pennzoil Synthetic oil, so I left the oil in until the oil change monitor told me it was due for a change. It was a test.

My typical driving time is about 50/50 highway vs secondary roads, very little City driving.
Thank you very much for that information. I have started using 5w-30 in my 2008 3.8L. I figured that the 5W-20 was only for economy and easier starting. I have been pretty busy since getting the car yesterday. I have not even raised the hood on it. I will get a chance to go over it more thoroughly. Thanks again.
 
#9 ·
You’ll like the 3.6, and the oil change isn’t that hard. What I miss from my 02 is the comfort and drive ability. This new vans are much larger, and drive that way. My 02 was fun to drive, but my 12, and now my 14 are big lugs to drive.

I remove the engine cover and air filter cover when doing my oil filter replacement. it makes it much easier. Yesterday was blizzard day, so I did the OLF and tire rotation on my 2 daily drivers. Only 4000 miles on each, but the oil was 9 months old and I had the time. I try to go between 5000 and 6000 miles. This change, I used the Havoline 6 quart box, as it is convenient and priced very well. I’m usually a Valvoline guy.

Enjoy!!
 
#11 ·
I'm not disappointed, but I guess things I read had me thinking the 3.6 would be more responsive than the 3.8. I cannot feel that. It seems like now that the 3.8 is a little peppier than the 3.6. Not a problem, but I was just expecting more.
 
#12 ·
The 3.6L will take on hills without shifting down as much as a 3.8L. The 3.6L definitely has more power.
 
#13 ·
So far, I haven't driven it much. It was just not obviously more responsive. I am hoping for a little better gas mileage also. Since moving to Texas most of my driving has been city driving, so I haven't really seen what it will do.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Nice looking vehicles. (y)

Had to clean some road tar off of mine today.. That didn't look so nice. Looks better now though. Are you one of these guys that's frequently washing/waxing their vehicles, giving them the clay bar treatment? Not me though. :)
 
#17 ·
Nice looking vehicles. (y)

Had to clean some road tar off of mind today.. That didn't look so nice. Looks better now though. Are you one of these guys that's frequently washing/waxing their vehicles, giving them the clay bar treatment? Not me though. :)
Thank you. I am not one who details my vehicles regularly. I try to keep them decent, but often fail. I had cleaned the 2008 recently, then the rain and snow helped as I didn't move it until afterwards. The 2020 was cleaned at the dealer before I got it and hasn't gotten dirty yet.
 
#20 · (Edited)
GT in 2020 for Canada.
Looking at edmunds.com, SXT is highest model for 2020 in USA. Yours may have a RT/GT/blacktop package.


The Grand Caravan SXT adds features such as chrome exterior trim, roof rails, power-sliding rear doors, a power liftgate, a larger floor console, and leather upholstery with suede inserts. It is offered with the Blacktop package and the considerably more feature-rich Driver Convenience Group package. This upgrade adds triple-zone automatic climate control, heated front seats, a heated steering wheel, a rear overhead console, an overhead storage bin, ambient lighting and second-row sunshades.
Optional on all trims is a rear entertainment system that comes with a 9-inch roof-mounted screen, a DVD player, a 115-volt power outlet, a charge-only USB port, and two sets of wireless headphones. With the SE Plus and SXT trims, this option also upgrades the Grand Caravan with navigation.
 
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#21 ·
Most trims have chrome grille bezel. Blacktop has black bezel. GT has body color bezel.

Lots of people think GT is a performance trim, but it's just an appearance package.
 
#23 ·
RT was what was on the paperwork I got from the dealer. My 2008 had SXT on the back of the van. This one had nothing like that. I just finally saw a text from Dodge that showed what it was. I would rather not have the Blacktop trim, but it was what they had.
 
#26 ·
Does the RT cost the same as an SXT? Just wondering aloud.

The only thing I don't like about the Blacktop trim was not having a roof rack. We also bought the only one the dealer had left. That was all they had.
 
#24 ·
One can always buy the RT or GT badging, and install, if it makes them feel better. It just sticks on. It's also easily removable.
Many vans, that have had rear end damage, have no badging.
 
#25 ·
I like the look of the Blacktop. Not really a fan of the GT's body color grille. I have the standard chrome, which looks good on white, but I don't like it on most of the other colors.

Interesting tidbit I just found out. While trying to see what standard options a SXT and GT trims would have had, I found out there is no GT trim for 2020. Instead there is a GT Fleet trim. I'm guessing this means all the GTs of 2020 were sold new only as fleet vehicles (ie: rentals).
 
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#27 ·
For 2020 Canada has:
  • Canada Value Package
  • SE Plus
  • SXT
  • SXT Plus
  • Crew
  • Premium Plus
  • Crew Plus
  • GT

GT enhancements vs Crew Plus
  • 9-speaker, 506-watt audio system
  • automatic headlamps with black surrounds
  • heated steering wheel
  • hands-free communication with Bluetooth streaming audio
BLACK STOW 'N PLACE™ ROOF RACK SYSTEM appears to be an option.
 
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#28 ·
I was glad mine didn't have a roof rack. My 2008 came with one. I took the rails off immediately and stored them. I still have them unused. It is just more to deal with when cleaning it.
 
#32 ·
I have hauled lumber on them for a shed, also an extension ladder a few times, plus down hill skis/snow board quite often. Haven't used the ones on the 2016 yet though.